vacuum pot or aeropress

French Press, Vac Pot, Drip or any other - air your views and results

Moderators: GreenBean, Gouezeri, bruceb, CakeBoy

Postby zix » Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:49 pm

Ah, well, the bodum santos does look better than the aeropress. Coffee tastes more in the aeropress though. Now, about that grinder... ;)
‹• Bezzera B3000AL • Strietman ES3 • Chemex • Cona C size • Aeropress • Vev moka • Bialetti Brikka • Espro • Cezve • Bacchi Espresso • Arrarex Caravel •
• HG-1 • Lido 1 & E-T • OE Pharos •
• oven • hot air gun • Behmor •›
User avatar
zix
 
Posts: 1331
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:40 pm
Location: Partille/Göteborg, Sweden

Postby jon » Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:01 am

oops - meant to say a bodum antigua grinder. Don't have a santos at all...easily confused, though :)
jon
 
Posts: 288
Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:00 pm

Postby jon » Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:42 pm

Right, have got an aeropress now. Have been brewing some coffee with it, and the results are OK, but just OK. The coffee's very smooth, and seems strong enough, but seems to have lost some of the sweetness you can get from a french press and maybe the smell's not so strong.

Ground the coffee to the bodum's finest setting (about right for moka pot), moistened it in aeropress, then added water, stirred well, and squeezed. From adding water, this took about 1.5mins to get the coffee out.
Also, the plunger never touched the water - instead, the air pressure pushed the coffee through.

Am I doing something wrong, or is this how it's meant to be?
jon
 
Posts: 288
Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:00 pm

Postby CakeBoy » Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:45 pm

Others will know more, but 1.5 mins sounds a little long to me. I think 45 seconds is the target. You may have no sweetness due to over-extraction. Steve will be able help further :D
www.CakeBoy.co.uk
International muffin blagger

Iberital L'Anna 1 Gp Hand-Fill | Wega Orion 2 Gp | Bezzera 1 Gp | Rancilio Audrey PID | Spidem Trevi
Iberital MC2 Timed | Macap M4 DS & MXA DS | Mazzer SJ | Starbucks Barista Grinder (Dualit E60/Solis 166)
Pinhalense 2x500g Gas Batch/Sample Roaster | Gene Cafe | IMEX CR-100
Aerobie | eSantos | Zassenhaus | Bodum P/Over | Chemex | Hario Woodneck | Timer Filter
User avatar
CakeBoy
 
Posts: 10006
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:43 pm
Location: Oxfordshire, England

Postby lukas » Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:49 pm

I never experimented with fine grinds in the aeropress. Usually I do about filter-fine ...
Lukas

This week I like my coffee luke-warm.
--
Newest kit: Ghibli R-15
User avatar
lukas
 
Posts: 2798
Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:41 pm
Location: Germany

Postby jon » Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:14 pm

thanks - will try to speed the process up. The grind wasn't far off what you'd use for a fine drip down filter (the grinder doesn't go all that fine) but will try with a coarser grind, too.
Anything that can be done about the air pressure - part of the reason it was taking so long is that pushing down the plunger was v hard...
jon
 
Posts: 288
Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:00 pm

Postby CakeBoy » Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:18 pm

If it resists too much, just let off the pressure slightly for a moment and it will move more easily when you begin to push again.
www.CakeBoy.co.uk
International muffin blagger

Iberital L'Anna 1 Gp Hand-Fill | Wega Orion 2 Gp | Bezzera 1 Gp | Rancilio Audrey PID | Spidem Trevi
Iberital MC2 Timed | Macap M4 DS & MXA DS | Mazzer SJ | Starbucks Barista Grinder (Dualit E60/Solis 166)
Pinhalense 2x500g Gas Batch/Sample Roaster | Gene Cafe | IMEX CR-100
Aerobie | eSantos | Zassenhaus | Bodum P/Over | Chemex | Hario Woodneck | Timer Filter
User avatar
CakeBoy
 
Posts: 10006
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:43 pm
Location: Oxfordshire, England

Postby Steve » Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:39 pm

Speed up and closer to filter/ french press than espresso type of grind.
User avatar
Steve
Founder Member
 
Posts: 3442
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2003 5:58 pm
Location: Stafford UK

Postby scook94 » Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:49 pm

Steve wrote:Speed up and closer to filter/ french press than espresso type of grind.

Interesting. Have you played around much with the grind for the Aeropress? I must admit I haven't, but I use the same grind as for espresso and I have enjoyed the results.
Izzo Vivi | Mazzer SJ Doserless | Gene Cafe
User avatar
scook94
 
Posts: 538
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:11 pm
Location: Stirling, Scotland

Postby jon » Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:34 pm

thanks - will give this a try.
jon
 
Posts: 288
Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:00 pm

Postby Steve » Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:40 pm

I've played an awful lot with it. Results are some things are better on a shorter extraction finer grind, some things better on a longer extraction.

For instance Brazil Cachoeira is best on a shorter extraction finer grind as it seems to bring out the sweetness.

Monsoon Malabar need’s a longer extraction to build the body. I’m not sure if this is true for all coffees as I’ve had some freak results but its somewhere t6o start from
User avatar
Steve
Founder Member
 
Posts: 3442
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2003 5:58 pm
Location: Stafford UK

Postby scook94 » Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:51 pm

Now that is interseting, I've enjoyed the Brazil Cachoeira so much that way that last time I roasted a batch (400g worth) all of it went through my Aeropress in exactly the way you describe. It seemed a waste to make an espresso with it... Maybe my palette isn't so dull as i thought!
Izzo Vivi | Mazzer SJ Doserless | Gene Cafe
User avatar
scook94
 
Posts: 538
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:11 pm
Location: Stirling, Scotland

Postby CakeBoy » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:15 am

We liked the Cuban Peaberry through the Aerobie, it added lots of body and enhanced the milk chocolate flavour. The Cach was sweeter and a little less dry than in espresso. All very lovely :D
www.CakeBoy.co.uk
International muffin blagger

Iberital L'Anna 1 Gp Hand-Fill | Wega Orion 2 Gp | Bezzera 1 Gp | Rancilio Audrey PID | Spidem Trevi
Iberital MC2 Timed | Macap M4 DS & MXA DS | Mazzer SJ | Starbucks Barista Grinder (Dualit E60/Solis 166)
Pinhalense 2x500g Gas Batch/Sample Roaster | Gene Cafe | IMEX CR-100
Aerobie | eSantos | Zassenhaus | Bodum P/Over | Chemex | Hario Woodneck | Timer Filter
User avatar
CakeBoy
 
Posts: 10006
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:43 pm
Location: Oxfordshire, England

Postby jon » Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:56 pm

Thanks - the coffee's come out sweeter this time. It still seems to be the air pressure that pushes it through, though - the plunger barely touches the coffee. Is this a bad thing?
jon
 
Posts: 288
Joined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:00 pm

Postby lukas » Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:58 pm

I guess that's why it's called aeropress :)
Lukas

This week I like my coffee luke-warm.
--
Newest kit: Ghibli R-15
User avatar
lukas
 
Posts: 2798
Joined: Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:41 pm
Location: Germany

PreviousNext

Return to Other Brewing Methods

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 22 guests

cron