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Huge crema in my moka pot!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:32 pm
by Terje
I'm on to something!

I take less water in the pot, sicne you can't take more coffee, in order to get a stronger brew.

Now, with my own "espresso blend", freshly roasted (right from the frying pan type of fresh) and my smallest moka pot that makes only one cup I just got the fattest crema I've ever seen in a moka pot before (and I've seen a few... ). It filled more than half the top part of the pot!

Best tasting cup of moka I've had in my life so far. I'll be able to beat it soon I think...

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:46 pm
by Terje
I just outdid myself...

Took some Monsooned Malabaar beans this time, a bean that generally doesn't give much of a crema in a moka pot.

I had to scoup it out with a spoon! :shock:

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:26 pm
by lukas
I want I want ... cool stuff!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:38 pm
by bruceb
You know, that's what I discovered with freshly roasted beans, too. Whether espresso or moka pot I get lots of "crema" and a nice, sparkling taste. I'm sure it's the CO2 that's set free by roasting, but not yet escaped into the atmosphere. Somewhere I have a picture of a 2 oz shot that is frothy from top to bottom. I'll have to look for it.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:50 pm
by leecb
Don't you guys worry about global warming :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:28 am
by Olings
...but if they drink it before the CO2 has a chance to escape, the earth is saved and the warming not globally only bodily. They sacrifice their bodies for the sake of the planet and a cup of wonderful coffee. (I hope I spelled this right. Wouldn't want to get hunted down by the spelling police AKA The English Inquisition AKA Dom.)


Ola

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:01 am
by BazBean
Olings wrote:...but if they drink it before the CO2 has a chance to escape,

Ola


What goes IN must come OUT ?!!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:36 pm
by Terje
bruceb wrote:You know, that's what I discovered with freshly roasted beans, too. Whether espresso or moka pot I get lots of "crema" and a nice, sparkling taste. I'm sure it's the CO2 that's set free by roasting, but not yet escaped into the atmosphere. Somewhere I have a picture of a 2 oz shot that is frothy from top to bottom. I'll have to look for it.


Whatever this "crema" consists of it is in any case a sure sign that the coffe in the cup is as good as it can ever be when made in a moka pot.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:36 pm
by zix
How much less water do you take, Terje? Wonder if this gives the same results as my "stop early" method... perhaps not quite.
However, I did a blend of yirgacheffe/old java yesterday, pushed it through the aeropress. That too was exceedingly rich, in bloom. Tasted heavenly. Something in the air, perhaps?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:13 am
by Terje
Maybe it's 15% less, maybe 20%. I don't really measure it, I just estimate.

The result is a stronger brew, more intense.

What's this aeropress?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:10 pm
by zix
Thanks! I also estimate, I think I use about 30% less when I stop early.
The aeropress? It is a lot like a press pot, but much better. http://aerobie.com/Products/aeropress.htm
In sweden, the "Kaffemaskinen" stores in Sthlm and Gbg sell it. Ugly, but the coffee tastes good. There is also a sticky about it in this forum, as you may have noticed.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:31 pm
by Terje
Hey, read this part about the aeropress:

"4. To make a regular American cup of coffee using an AeroPress, you basically brew an espresso and then dilute it with hot water. Why not run a whole cup of water through the press?

We tried just that. But again, in blind-tasting tests everyone said that the coffee tasted smoother when made by our recommended method. Pushing too much water through the coffee extracts bitterness."

Maybe that's what we're on to when using less water in the moka pot!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:43 pm
by zix
Absolutely, I would guess it is the exact same thing happening. Brews on the virge of underextraction do taste good in many coffee machines, even electric filter brewers...

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:55 pm
by lukas
If you try the aeropress, forget the instructions. They're rubbish (partly) :)

PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:34 pm
by MarkA
Terje - have just tried your 'less water' technique in the moka pot and impressed with the results.

Have never really been a fan of my moka pot - but this has produced better results and has encouraged me to experiment a bit more with it - thanks