Too Much Coffee Forum Index

Post new topic   Reply to topic
View previous topic Printable version Log in to check your private messages View next topic
Author Message
JankSolidOffline
Post subject: Conti Empress 2 Group - Restoration  PostPosted: Jan 31, 2012 - 04:34 PM



Joined: Jun 12, 2011
Posts: 64

Status: Offline
I've been asked to bring this beautiful old lever machine back to life.



It's in France at the moment but should be arriving here within the next few days.

It looks in nice condition externally for a 50+ year old.
We haven't seen inside it yet but hopefully that'll be as clean as the outside.

It's currently wired for 110V so I'll definitely be converting to 230V with a new element and wiring.

Also, one of the levers is broken. I'll either fix that myself or take it to a metal shop if needed.

Orphan Espresso have rebuilt a few of these and even have a few service parts in stock.
I expect to be consulting Doug and Barb on this one Cool

Here's a rear view complete with crest and Rexine upholstery...



Last edited by JankSolid on Feb 07, 2012 - 02:56 PM; edited 2 times in total
 
 View user's profile Send private message  
Reply with quote Back to top
RobCOffline
Post subject: RE: COMING SOON: Conti Empress 2 Group - Restoration  PostPosted: Jan 31, 2012 - 10:54 PM



Joined: Jan 08, 2005
Posts: 897
Location: Yorkshire, UK
Status: Offline
Wow those lever handles are boss, that's gonna be a hell of a unique machine props!

_________________
Long forgotton Tech and Coffee Equipment guru.
Twitter: @c0ff33a
As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I take a look at my life and realise there's none left 'Cause I've been brassing and laughing so long that Even my mamma thinks that my mind is gone
 
 View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website  
Reply with quote Back to top
CakeBoyOffline
Post subject: RE: COMING SOON: Conti Empress 2 Group - Restoration  PostPosted: Feb 01, 2012 - 01:02 AM



Joined: Oct 18, 2005
Posts: 9604
Location: Oxfordshire, England
Status: Offline
Stunning. I love levers. Please keep the photos coming as it progresses Smile

_________________
www.CakeBoy.co.uk
International muffin blagger

Iberital L'Anna 1 Gp Hand-Fill | Wega Orion 2 Gp | Bezzera 1 Gp | Rancilio Audrey PID | Spidem Trevi
Iberital MC2 Timed | Macap M4 DS & MXA DS | Mazzer SJ | Starbucks Barista Grinder (Dualit E60/Solis 166)
Pinhalense 2x500g Gas Batch/Sample Roaster | Gene Cafe | IMEX CR-100
Aerobie | eSantos | Zassenhaus | Bodum P/Over | Chemex | Hario Woodneck | Timer Filter
 
 View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website  
Reply with quote Back to top
lsjms
Post subject: RE: COMING SOON: Conti Empress 2 Group - Restoration  PostPosted: Feb 01, 2012 - 09:38 PM



Joined: Oct 31, 2009
Posts: 349
Location: London, UK
Exciting, can't wait to see inside. It looks so shiny, like it will be plug and play.

The broken lever may point to a nastily stuck piston or perhaps it took a hit. The 110v is interesting, a tour of the USA? maybe run on a site generator? the hole at the front suggests it was gas originally.

With this and Lukas new toy I have some serious coffee envy going on this week Laughing

_________________
 
 View user's profile Send private message  
Reply with quote Back to top
brucebOffline
Post subject: RE: COMING SOON: Conti Empress 2 Group - Restoration  PostPosted: Feb 01, 2012 - 10:03 PM



Joined: Apr 04, 2004
Posts: 5061
Location: Northern Hesse, Germany
Status: Offline
Very nice! I hope you will take some pictures of the rebuilding process. I would like to see the construction of the lever/grouphead mechanics. I had a single-group Conti with the same kind of lever handle, similar to the one in the picture below, but it was too far gone for my mechanical capabilities at the time. Sad



Conti_01a.jpg
 Description:
Old Conti lever machine
 Filesize:  16.02 KB
 Viewed:  2355 Time(s)

Conti_01a.jpg



_________________
Three Francesconi (CMA) espresso machines - Rossi, San Marco, LaCimbali, Faema and 2 Mazzer Major grinders- CoffeeTech Maggionlino, Hottop, Alpenröst and HW Precision roasters.
This week I are pleased with my new grinder and LM baskets.
 
 View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website  
Reply with quote Back to top
CakeBoyOffline
Post subject: RE: COMING SOON: Conti Empress 2 Group - Restoration  PostPosted: Feb 02, 2012 - 01:25 AM



Joined: Oct 18, 2005
Posts: 9604
Location: Oxfordshire, England
Status: Offline
Oh Bruce, that was stunning. How long ago did you have it?

_________________
www.CakeBoy.co.uk
International muffin blagger

Iberital L'Anna 1 Gp Hand-Fill | Wega Orion 2 Gp | Bezzera 1 Gp | Rancilio Audrey PID | Spidem Trevi
Iberital MC2 Timed | Macap M4 DS & MXA DS | Mazzer SJ | Starbucks Barista Grinder (Dualit E60/Solis 166)
Pinhalense 2x500g Gas Batch/Sample Roaster | Gene Cafe | IMEX CR-100
Aerobie | eSantos | Zassenhaus | Bodum P/Over | Chemex | Hario Woodneck | Timer Filter
 
 View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website  
Reply with quote Back to top
brucebOffline
Post subject: Re: RE: COMING SOON: Conti Empress 2 Group - Restoration  PostPosted: Feb 02, 2012 - 06:24 AM



Joined: Apr 04, 2004
Posts: 5061
Location: Northern Hesse, Germany
Status: Offline
CakeBoy wrote:
Oh Bruce, that was stunning. How long ago did you have it?


Hi Cakey! I think it was in 2003. I got it very inexpensively and resold it for little money to a machinist friend who was moving to the States. I believe he spent nearly 2 years working on it, but I never heard whether he finally finished it. The lever assembly was frozen (corroded) solid and the heater was burned through. I didn't have the time or facilities to give it the care it needed.

_________________
Three Francesconi (CMA) espresso machines - Rossi, San Marco, LaCimbali, Faema and 2 Mazzer Major grinders- CoffeeTech Maggionlino, Hottop, Alpenröst and HW Precision roasters.
This week I are pleased with my new grinder and LM baskets.
 
 View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website  
Reply with quote Back to top
DrTomOffline
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: COMING SOON: Conti Empress 2 Group - Restoration  PostPosted: Feb 02, 2012 - 03:47 PM



Joined: Aug 27, 2008
Posts: 466
Location: NE England
Status: Offline
Wow, there's some beautiful machines in this thread.

Super excited to see the progress Smile
 
 View user's profile Send private message  
Reply with quote Back to top
JankSolidOffline
Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 03, 2012 - 10:52 PM



Joined: Jun 12, 2011
Posts: 64

Status: Offline
Just got time to say that The Empress has arrived!

Had a good look round it today and it's dirty inside but in pretty good condition.

And it's all there. Including the mercury switched bellows pressurestat which is just amazing and looks like a part of a Jules Verne time machine.





Then lsjms came over and we took one of the groups apart...


Last edited by JankSolid on Feb 07, 2012 - 02:57 PM; edited 1 time in total
 
 View user's profile Send private message  
Reply with quote Back to top
brucebOffline
Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 03, 2012 - 11:39 PM



Joined: Apr 04, 2004
Posts: 5061
Location: Northern Hesse, Germany
Status: Offline
Looks very challenging! Have fun.

Before you plug it in, however, make sure it really isn't a Jules Verne time machine! Shocked

_________________
Three Francesconi (CMA) espresso machines - Rossi, San Marco, LaCimbali, Faema and 2 Mazzer Major grinders- CoffeeTech Maggionlino, Hottop, Alpenröst and HW Precision roasters.
This week I are pleased with my new grinder and LM baskets.
 
 View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website  
Reply with quote Back to top
dwalsh1Offline
Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 04, 2012 - 06:26 PM



Joined: Mar 07, 2010
Posts: 82
Location: Harrow, UK
Status: Offline
Cant see no picture Mr JankSolid ?
 
 View user's profile Send private message  
Reply with quote Back to top
brucebOffline
Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 04, 2012 - 07:27 PM



Joined: Apr 04, 2004
Posts: 5061
Location: Northern Hesse, Germany
Status: Offline
dwalsh1 wrote:
Cant see no picture Mr JankSolid ?


The pictures show up fine on my computers. Do you generally have trouble seeing pictures on this site? Did you wait long enough for them to appear? On my slow satellite connection they take a bit to appear. If you continue having problems send me a PM and we'll try to work it out.

_________________
Three Francesconi (CMA) espresso machines - Rossi, San Marco, LaCimbali, Faema and 2 Mazzer Major grinders- CoffeeTech Maggionlino, Hottop, Alpenröst and HW Precision roasters.
This week I are pleased with my new grinder and LM baskets.
 
 View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website  
Reply with quote Back to top
dwalsh1Offline
Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 04, 2012 - 08:09 PM



Joined: Mar 07, 2010
Posts: 82
Location: Harrow, UK
Status: Offline
This machine I believe sold on e bay a couple of weeks ago for £250 (the only bid). My son offered a buy it now price for £500 and they accepted. I told him it was to big a task to take on and to back off. Funny enough I also told him that JankSolid restored them and if he went ahead with the sale to contact him. I'm interested to see the finished job.
 
 View user's profile Send private message  
Reply with quote Back to top
lsjms
Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 05, 2012 - 07:28 PM



Joined: Oct 31, 2009
Posts: 349
Location: London, UK
I too am not seeing the photos - by Jank, can see the one Bruce posted, last time I saw this thread I could see Janks too. Odd. I take this as further confirmation of the Jules Verne theory.

This is a cool machine, the groups are nice and simple but no CMA, newish looking gaskets and pristine spring. The large amount of revolting, smelly black gear grease packed around the piston and spring probably helped this and the cylinder is probably in good order. I say probably because normally you would stick your fingers in and feel how smooth the bore is but in this case the grease just put us off. Jank will update.

Mr Walsh, if your son paid the 500 and gave Jank perhaps a 1000 more he would have got a historic bargain that could be flipped for a price I do not know. A two group duel fuel lever of any origin goes for decent money and this is cool as anything.

The 1000 I mentioned above for parts and labour is meaningless, I would hate to quote on this job. If all those bolts on the boiler just come out under the spanner Jank could be in for a fun time, but if they snap this will go epic. The broken lever arm will not be easy either unless sacrifices are made. The owner has some decisions to make regarding cost/originality/ outright performance which will affect the difficulty of the job. I'm sure Jank will show us the lot.

_________________
 
 View user's profile Send private message  
Reply with quote Back to top
brucebOffline
Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 05, 2012 - 09:02 PM



Joined: Apr 04, 2004
Posts: 5061
Location: Northern Hesse, Germany
Status: Offline
OK, Jank's pictures are linked to an external server and that server is presently down. I presume that will be fixed and the pictures will then return. There's nothing we can do about the problem here, I'm afraid. Sad

_________________
Three Francesconi (CMA) espresso machines - Rossi, San Marco, LaCimbali, Faema and 2 Mazzer Major grinders- CoffeeTech Maggionlino, Hottop, Alpenröst and HW Precision roasters.
This week I are pleased with my new grinder and LM baskets.
 
 View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website  
Reply with quote Back to top
Display posts from previous:     
Jump to:  
All times are GMT
Post new topic   Reply to topic
View previous topic Printable version Log in to check your private messages View next topic
Powered by PNphpBB2 © 2003-2007 The PNphpBB Group
Credits